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I switched my 401K and my ROTH to aggresive small cap in March. Will be doing something similar to what you are suggesting and putting it somewhere more safe, very soon. Curious though, how moving into Bonds would work. Do I not need to let those bonds sit for awhile and wait for the payoff before moving back into something aggressive shortly after the election?Sid Hartman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:44 pmShift your assets to bonds the month before election, then after election when market goes down switch them all back to aggressive stocks and make bank and protect yourself during the run up to election with the $ you made
Have also been making moves for about the last month from switching my personal stocks to ETF's. Trying to minimize this hit most are expecting as much as possible. If I moved into bonds instead of ETF's in say November, would I not need to wait until at least February to get the return on them? Or does the return on it go up every day?
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Why put all your savings into a casino that will never pay off?
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lol. How does making money equate to not paying off?
I'll break it down to you again, since you seemed to miss the last time I quoted you here...
If you invested at the worst time in the history of the stock market, which was back in 2008 when the DOW was around 14000 and dropped to around 7000 in a few months, you'd still be up around 120% today. Just 12 years, and you more than doubled your investment...by doing so at the worst possible time to invest money.
If you are still confused, here is a chart to help you. The 14K bit starts a bit before this chart takes off, but its still there.

Now, if you simply just put your money into a banking savings account around the same time...how much has your money grown? Is it even comparable to this?
I'll throw out the same number I did last time I quoted you. Say you had 50K you could either put in a savings account at a bank, or invest in the market...at the worst possible time to invest in the market. That 50K is now 110K in the stock market, and your money placed in a savings account that gives you 1-2% interest is now, what? 60k? This again, happening at the worst possible time in the history of the market to invest.
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Pretty sure you get the daily returns of the bonds it’s just not as large as a stock investment, however a lot more safety with a bumpy forecast ahead. Everyone is saying a massive dip is coming so be ready to shift the assets back to stocks as soon as you think the market has bottomed out. In my 401k there are several bond options I’m going to look into. Right now I’m heavy in growth stocks...Large, medium and small...small is killing me but least amount of my $ there. Just want to make sure you don’t lose all the gains you have...when covid hit lost 35% of my portfolio value, I just doubled down and increased my monthly contribution to 30% of my paycheck to get stocks at lower value and now am up almost 15% from where I startedbubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:45 pmI switched my 401K and my ROTH to aggresive small cap in March. Will be doing something similar to what you are suggesting and putting it somewhere more safe, very soon. Curious though, how moving into Bonds would work. Do I not need to let those bonds sit for awhile and wait for the payoff before moving back into something aggressive shortly after the election?Sid Hartman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:44 pmShift your assets to bonds the month before election, then after election when market goes down switch them all back to aggressive stocks and make bank and protect yourself during the run up to election with the $ you made
Have also been making moves for about the last month from switching my personal stocks to ETF's. Trying to minimize this hit most are expecting as much as possible. If I moved into bonds instead of ETF's in say November, would I not need to wait until at least February to get the return on them? Or does the return on it go up every day?
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that's a beautiful chart until the very end. that looks like a double top right there. time will tell if it precludes some serious retracing for a couple of years.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:09 amlol. How does making money equate to not paying off?
I'll break it down to you again, since you seemed to miss the last time I quoted you here...
If you invested at the worst time in the history of the stock market, which was back in 2008 when the DOW was around 14000 and dropped to around 7000 in a few months, you'd still be up around 120% today. Just 12 years, and you more than doubled your investment...by doing so at the worst possible time to invest money.
If you are still confused, here is a chart to help you. The 14K bit starts a bit before this chart takes off, but its still there.
Now, if you simply just put your money into a banking savings account around the same time...how much has your money grown? Is it even comparable to this?
I'll throw out the same number I did last time I quoted you. Say you had 50K you could either put in a savings account at a bank, or invest in the market...at the worst possible time to invest in the market. That 50K is now 110K in the stock market, and your money placed in a savings account that gives you 1-2% interest is now, what? 60k? This again, happening at the worst possible time in the history of the market to invest.
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also all of this day to day stuff means nothing to a long-term investor. if you're dollar cost averaging on a quarterly basis for years it's actually nice when you get some down quarters/years so you can buy more. i'd probably buy the spyders if i had 20-30 years before retirement with something like 75 percent of the investment money.
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yeah until we get to a true bear market in which case that approach will fuck youweimy froob wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:10 pmalso all of this day to day stuff means nothing to a long-term investor. if you're dollar cost averaging on a quarterly basis for years it's actually nice when you get some down quarters/years so you can buy more. i'd probably buy the spyders if i had 20-30 years before retirement with something like 75 percent of the investment money.
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Check out SPI today froobs. I’ve seen some big one day gainers but this one might take the cake.
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how much you up today NoisewaterKenneth Noisewater wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:09 pmCheck out SPI today froobs. I’ve seen some big one day gainers but this one might take the cake.
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Damn... On the same day Nikola is getting torn to shreds...Kenneth Noisewater wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:09 pmCheck out SPI today froobs. I’ve seen some big one day gainers but this one might take the cake.
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I’m out of round trips...no trades today.nigel wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:59 pmhow much you up today NoisewaterKenneth Noisewater wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:09 pmCheck out SPI today froobs. I’ve seen some big one day gainers but this one might take the cake.
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Pretty much everything else EV related was down today.j2j wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:03 pmDamn... On the same day Nikola is getting torn to shreds...Kenneth Noisewater wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:09 pmCheck out SPI today froobs. I’ve seen some big one day gainers but this one might take the cake.
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Stocks are a great way to build wealth. Which is why racist liberals don’t want it.
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thank God there's a forum like this where we can access some of the nation's foremost financial geniuses
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Key to bettering yourself is to learn from experts.realjazzguy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:49 pmthank God there's a forum like this where we can access some of the nation's foremost financial geniuses
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I'm a librull. I'd prefer to rely on govmint handoutsdRUSH wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:14 pmKey to bettering yourself is to learn from experts.realjazzguy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:49 pmthank God there's a forum like this where we can access some of the nation's foremost financial geniuses
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That’s not a lib bro. Liberals think minorities should be forced to be dependent on gov because they can’t to it themselves. Epitome of racism. Selfish individuals who only care about their own wealth. They got to where they are from white priv and want to make sure that their families will be wealthy forever with no competition.realjazzguy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:32 pmI'm a librull. I'd prefer to rely on govmint handoutsdRUSH wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:14 pmKey to bettering yourself is to learn from experts.realjazzguy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:49 pmthank God there's a forum like this where we can access some of the nation's foremost financial geniuses
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Gonna be ugly tomorrow after this debate. Market will show no faith in the countries future.
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People are watching that?bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:34 pmGonna be ugly tomorrow after this debate. Market will show no faith in the countries future.
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duh.Cobey wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:35 pmPeople are watching that?bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:34 pmGonna be ugly tomorrow after this debate. Market will show no faith in the countries future.
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Good. Tank it. I've got some Apple leaps to average down.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:34 pmGonna be ugly tomorrow after this debate. Market will show no faith in the countries future.
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lol, debate is literally a complete non factor on the marketbubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:34 pmGonna be ugly tomorrow after this debate. Market will show no faith in the countries future.
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You’re the only complete non-factor.nigel wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:46 pmlol, debate is literally a complete non factor on the marketbubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:34 pmGonna be ugly tomorrow after this debate. Market will show no faith in the countries future.
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Take it to poli chat. Oh wait...thinktank wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:54 pmYou’re the only complete non-factor.nigel wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:46 pmlol, debate is literally a complete non factor on the marketbubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:34 pmGonna be ugly tomorrow after this debate. Market will show no faith in the countries future.
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Oh wait, what I said wasn’t political.
Dumbass.
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Just think about what you’re missing.
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What’s that?Lesueurcountyguy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:19 pmJust think about what you’re missing.
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DOW up 330 today after a complete dumpster fire.bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:34 pmGonna be ugly tomorrow after this debate. Market will show no faith in the countries future.
The one thing they know is they have a President who is pro business and a challenger who has been bought off for years as a US Senator.
They know the game, they've made their investments.

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